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Ads on 43F (and helping improve them)
Merlin Mann | Oct 19 2005
43 Folders - October 2005 Reader Survey In deciding to run ads on 43 Folders, it’s been important to me to try and get things right. Over the past few weeks you’ve seen the site go way over the edge, then pull back—mostly just so I could learn where that edge was, although it’s also accidentally provided me with a fascinating crash course on how industry standard ad units and software work. I’ve also listened to you guys, moved some stuff around, and tried to keep things both sane and modestly profitable. Whether I’ve gotten that mix perfect on any given day will always be open to debate, but I’ll tell you two things that are important to me:
I’ve tried to address part one on my advertising page where I show people options for enjoying 43 Folders ad-free, through RSS feeds and ad-blocking. Wherever practical, I’ve also added an Part two is a lot trickier because I don’t really get to pick my advertisers: they choose me. And sometimes—much to people’s understandable consternation—they pick this site because our users don’t use their product. That’s apparently how advertising works, believe it or not. Hello, FMBut here’s the thing. I work with some very smart people at Federated Media Publishing. This is a company that was started by John Battelle, the same guy who founded (or co-founded) Wired and The Industry Standard (as well as inventing the letter “m,” designing the Chrysler Building, and developing the first viable home cheese grater). John and his talented crew (which includes the devastatingly handsome, Andre Torrez) are smart, and they get blogs and blog audiences. They want to find a match between original voices in publishing and the companies that would benefit from reaching their opinion-making audiences. In case you didn’t catch that: we both just got a really nice compliment from people with lots of money. And I’m pretty sure it’s not bullshit. FM is going to try to find advertisers and sponsors who represent a good fit here. If it’s possible—and I can virtually promise you that it will not always be—they’re going to try and deliver ads that make sense to a big fat part of the curve here. I think that’s a really good idea, and so I have empowered them to hop to it. Chop chop. Get out your #2 pencilsIt would be helpful to FM (and to me, and to the notional advertisers and, ultimately, to you) if you could take a few minutes to fill out this survey. I don’t have prizes to give away, but if I did, they’d be pretty nice and have your name monogrammed right on the side. If you’re comfortable doing this kind of thing, I’d personally consider it a proper. I understand and respect that for some people ads are an unforgivable use of internet and personal bandwidth. I run PithHelmet and have owned a TiVo for 4 years, so I’m not too far away from that point of view. But, the thing is: ads are the least costly option for you guys and the least time- and resource-consuming option for me. They’re easy to not see and they help provide me with what I need to keep growing the site in the way I’d like. Subscriptions seem like a drag to me, and a tip jar ain’t gonna cut it. But with your help, and working with FM, I’m pretty confident that we can attract the companies that want to reach you—and, most importantly—the companies by whom you’d like to be reached. And if, by chance, you happen to be one of those companies who would be a good fit here, permit me to direct you into the chiseled and loving arms of one Chas Edwards. He will work with you to develop a hand-churned ad campaign for 43 Folders that’s packed with old-world craftsmanship and rich, creamery appropriateness. He’s also very funny and charming (although I doubt he’s as devastatingly handsome as Andre is). Thanks in advance. For the survey, for hearing me out, and for having the decency to make your web browser come to my underdesigned website sometimes. 8 Comments
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![]() You should have an ad...Submitted by Annie (not verified) on October 19, 2005 - 1:54pm.
You should have an ad for Roomba, the robotic vacuum »
![]() I've just filled in the...Submitted by Jon Wood (not verified) on October 20, 2005 - 2:59am.
I’ve just filled in the survey, but I’d like to suggest that you add for=”field_name” to the labels, so that they can be clicked to check the check boxes. Also the “Best Deals” box in the ads doesn’t seem to like Firefox 1.0.7 on Ubuntu Breezy - everytime I type a character a copy of it blinks on for a second or so in the top left of the page, and slows things right down. »
![]() There ya go. Filled...Submitted by Chris (not verified) on October 20, 2005 - 4:33am.
There ya go. Filled out the survey. Merlin, I think you’ve currently got the right balance for ads on 43f. A few pertinent ads that are visible, but unobtrusive. Personally, I like them on the right-hand side and don’t mind the Amazon expanding pop-up. My rules of thumb: - If they blink or move or distract, Adblock them. - If they cover content or hijack, un-bookmark the site. »
![]() I kinda figured you had...Submitted by Scott Johnson (not verified) on October 20, 2005 - 12:08pm.
I kinda figured you had joined up with FM when I saw those Centrino ads that the rest of the network had been showing. ;-) This looks like it’s going to turn out to be a killer blog network. All of the best are here. Will there be a site that lists all of the member sites? I would find that useful today. Anyway, I don’t mind the ads the way they are now—the weblogsinc kind of 3-column style is cool. And it’s been proven to work. And now to that survey… »
![]() That's an interesting ad policy....Submitted by Jack Mottram (not verified) on October 21, 2005 - 2:22am.
That’s an interesting ad policy. I don’t think I’ve read of a site actively helping folk to block ads before, and it makes me want to unblock the ads here to repay the favour, if that makes any sense. Also, I just filled out the survey, and you could maybe do with adding more options to the dropdown list in the ‘In what industry do you work?’ bit, or an ‘Other’ option (unless I’m the only person who works outwith the industries listed who reads the site!). »
![]() I'm actually amazed I just...Submitted by Keely (not verified) on October 21, 2005 - 5:14am.
I’m actually amazed I just read an entire article about advertising on 43F. I think I got taken in at “devastatingly handsome” and ended up in full swoon at “creamery appropriateness”. Don’t worry Merlin, you’re clearly on the right track even if you don’t know it. »
![]() All filled out. Now please...Submitted by Robert 'Groby' Blum (not verified) on October 21, 2005 - 10:38am.
All filled out. Now please blog more about devastatingly handsome people ;) »
![]() Right now, all the google...Submitted by Joe (not verified) on October 26, 2005 - 12:30pm.
Right now, all the google ads are for free ipods. That is really the “fat part of the curve”? »
About Merlin MannBio Merlin Mann is an independent writer, speaker, and broadcaster. He’s best known for being the guy who started the website you’re reading right now. He lives in San Francisco, does lots of public speaking, and helps make cool things like You Look Nice Today. Also? He looks like this, answers questions, and has something like a life. Merlin’s favorite thing he’s written recently is a short essay called, “Better.” |
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