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A Week with Leopard's New iCal and Mail.app
Matt Wood | Nov 13 2007
While most sensible Mac users were looking forward to cool new features in Leopard like Cover Flow, Quick Look, and Time Machine, I was sitting on the edge of my seat, itching to try out iCal and Mail.app’s new to-do list integration. I agree with Merlin’s approach to using a bunch of single-purpose applications that are very good at what they do instead of a bloated piece of do-everything-ware like Outlook—“a series of super-sharp paring knives over one monstrous Swiss Army Knife”—as he put it, but I looked forward to a little bit of teamwork between two of the applications I use the most. And boy, am I disappointed.
I never felt the need for super-tight integration with my email before; if something important came via email, I usually banged out a corresponding to-do item, and filed the message away where I could find it later. I start to get twitchy when I have to look in too many different places for my stuff, which is why I’ve always turned away from high-powered task managers like OmniFocus. To me, what I have to do consists of my calendar and my to-do list, and I want that all in one place. That being said, I was intrigued by Leopoard Mail.app’s new ability to create to-do items directly out of an email, partly because I have a fetish for that stuff, and sadly, because it looked cool. So the first thing I did after installing Leopard was try it out. That’s where the problems began. The To-Do Two-Step The initial import of my context calendars and to-do items from iCal seemed to be static. If I made changes to them either in Mail or iCal, nothing synced between the two. If I created a new item it worked, so I chalked it up to an upgrade issue, but I noticed later that to-do items I created solely on local iCal calendars wouldn’t disappear from Mail’s list if I deleted them from iCal. Next, I tried creating a to-do item from one of my emails, which, forgive me for being slow, was confusing at first. I thought I could just select a message, click the to-do button, and assign a description. This is at least the way I’ve thought about email tasks in the past, something like “Call Joe to talk about Mary’s email,” which refers me to said message, not necessarily a specific sentence in it.
Instead, to create a to-do from Mail, you have to select a piece of text from your message, which then becomes your task description. This is all fine and dandy if it was easy to edit that text to suit your needs. But how often does someone email you a perfect explanation of what to do? Right. So once I figured this part out, I tried editing the description, but Mail would repeatedly skip back to the beginning and replace what I typed with the original text. Sometimes it took me two or three tries to get it right. I believe this has something to do with my Mail set up. I pipe everything through a Gmail account, which I now check via IMAP. In this arrangement, Mail actually stores the to-do items as messages in your mail account. In fact, every time you sync you Gmail account, Mail writes a new version of the message. I didn’t realize this until I looked at my Gmail archive and saw seven copies of each to-do. I did some unscientific testing by watching the activity window in Mail, and I think that when I started to create a to-do item out of a message, Mail immediately synced with Gmail. If I tried editing the description before it finished, it replaced my text with the original version, now living on the server. I realized I could prevent this from happening by waiting a few seconds to edit, but c’mon, that isn’t why I use a Mac. The same thing happened if I created a new to-do item in iCal and tried to make a quick change. To make matters worse, Mail seems to get confused about discrepancies between the local and server versions of these to-do “messages” very easily. A dialog box asking me if I wanted to keep the local or server version popped up repeatedly, and would loop endlessly unless I chose the server version. Calendars, Calendars Everywhere
I tried to get around this limitation by creating mail to-do’s in a temporary calendar then moving them to my main ones, but if you move a to-do item from one calendar to another with a different name, it breaks the link to the mail message, which defeats the whole purpose of this tortuous exercise. The only workaround I see is to create duplicate sets of calendars in both iCal and your mail account. If you move to-do’s between calendars with the same name, the link is preserved, but again, I use a Mac so I don’t have to do shit like that. These special mail calendars also can’t sync with iPods through iTunes. Maybe the forthcoming Leopard version of Missing Sync for Blackberry, Palm, and Windows Mobile PDA users will tackle this, but there’s no reason they should have all the fun. I know the iPod’s PIM features don’t exactly get people rioting on the streets, but on that mythical day when the iPhone gets a to-do list and syncs it through iTunes, one would hope that this gets fixed. As useful as they might be when you can actually create one, to-do’s with attached mail messages also screw up my new favorite trick, the aforementioned “Ass Pocket of iCal.” If you print your to-do list, and any of the items have attached messages, iCal tosses either a messy local URL or huge block of ASCII gobbledegook in the notes field. This is a cosmetic problem that irritates a particular sore spot for me, I know, but it’s just another item in a long list of disappointments. Do Over I won’t go so far as calling Mail.app’s to-do functionality half-assed, but it also appears to be tacked on as an afterthought. I might have complicated matters by throwing an IMAP account into the mix, but I can’t imagine that Apple doesn’t have software testers on staff who think about this kind of stuff. But then again, maybe I’m asking them to cater to too specific a need. Mail does offer some nifty hooks into iCal, like recognizing dates and times and letting you create a new event, but the rest of its integration is just confusing and messy. By itself, Mail’s to-do’s work fine, and if you feel the need to liberate lots of actions from messages, maybe you should consider doing most of your work there. But if you’re a heavy iCal user like me, or find yourself thinking about getting some hot Mail-on-iCal action going, you need to wait for Apple to try again. 7 Comments
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Palm Desktop Still Simplest Sharp KnifeSubmitted by solo on November 15, 2007 - 7:09pm.
I know I sound like an OS 9 holdout on the islands surrounding Japan, insisting that for the sake of the Emperor I will keep fighting… But the Palm Desktop, with Memos, To Dos, Contacts and Calendar still seems like the sharpest blade in the kit. Apple’s proprietary stuff (as opposed to the OS, which is where I live) seems to get in the way too much, even though it has more iCandy. The elegance of the Palm probably stems from having some Claris DNA… »
Mail app To-Do's not showing up in icalSubmitted by wyattg on November 19, 2007 - 10:50am.
My to-do’s that I make in mail.app are not showing up in ical? Can anyone help? Thanks »
mail.app to do's not showing in icalSubmitted by wyattg on November 19, 2007 - 10:55am.
I just did a reboot and now they are showing up ?? I agree with you 100% wood-tang! I hope Apple reads your article and acts on it ASAP. Thanks »
AgreedSubmitted by drewfranklin on November 19, 2007 - 10:23pm.
I couldn’t agree more with your post. Although I do think some of it has to do with how gmail is using IMAP for todos and notes, I still feel like it is very half assed and poorly implemented for how great it possibly could be. »
To dos in Mail are better than you thinkSubmitted by Chilstrom on November 19, 2007 - 10:55pm.
You don’t have to select text in Mail to attach a To Do to a message. In Mail’s split pane view, click the cursor in a message, then click the “To Do” button. There’s an inconsistency which requires a selection when viewing a message as a single window. I’m using Mail with a pop Gmail account, and Mail To Dos are in perfect sync with iCal. Create, edit or delete a To Do in one app and the change appears instantly in the other. As I understand it, Mail and iCal are both tapped into Leopard’s To Do server, so they are working on exactly the same piece of data. Of course, your IMAP server sees your To Dos as mail messages and nothing else, it has no clue about iCal or anything else on your computer outside of your email. Email is a major source of action items for me, and in my POP email context, the current implementation of To Dos works very well. For instance, after completing a To Do linked to an email, I can get right back to the sender with a response. I also use the Notes in Mail, though I’m bummed that there isn’t a “Note Server” that ties Mail, Stickies and third party notes together. Also, it would be nice if Mail Notes and To Dos could be created from selected text in any application via the Services menu. Strange that I can make a Sticky note from any chunk of selected text, but not a Mail Note or To Do. »
Re: To dos in Mail are better than you thinkSubmitted by wood.tang on November 20, 2007 - 5:14am.
Good call on creating the To Do from a split pane. And I think you’re right; the more I’ve played with it, the more it seems like an IMAP issue. I’m guessing this feature was mainly designed for POP users. »
you lasted a whole week, eh?Submitted by bigcloits on December 3, 2007 - 5:49pm.
Well, you may not go so far as to call the implementation half-assed, but I sure will. Man, this stuff really burns my butt. It makes me embarrassed to take calls from switchers. I didn’t last an hour. Granted, I am also trying to integrate with IMAP/Gmail, which is obviously likely to be a bit sketchy, but geeeeez … I managed to break this feature about six different ways in as many minutes, and it certainly wasn’t all to do with Gmail. Flaky as my grandma’s apple pie crust. Half-assed? Not even that good. Right now it’s so broken that I can’t even turn it off. I have commanded Mail.app to start creating to-dos “On My Mac” only, dammit, and it won’t do it. it just keeps regenerating the “Apple Mail To Do” label in Gmail and uploading every to do to the server. I try to delete them, but Mail hangs on the synchronization, repeatedly. That’s right — it hangs. That’s less than half an ass, right there. At present, I do not want to use to-dos in Mail, but to-dos have actually broken my Gmail/Mail.app relationship. Give. Me. Strength. »
About wood.tangBio Matt Wood is a writer, former IT drone, sometime realtor, and full-time stay-at-home dad. He and his family live in Chicago. |
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