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pouexmachinax | May 8 2007
This has been bugging me for some time. Let's say my project is "Stop drinking coffee" There are several of those projects where I do not Maybe I'm missing something. Thanks for your help. 9 Comments
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I think there's more than...Submitted by SteveC on May 9, 2007 - 4:52am.
I think there's more than one issue here pouexmachinax;9263 wrote: This has been bugging me for some time. Difficult -- One could be flippant and say that the project is complete (until you do drink some coffee!). If you're going to use GTD for something like this, you'll need to make the outcome of the project more specific (for example - don't drink coffee, but replace with herbal tea - or - don't drink any coffee until the end of the month). Quote:
Changing your diet - again, more focus on the outcome would help. But in this case, there's a positive outcome (as opposed to the 'don't drink coffee'). What do you want your new diet be like? How are you going to achieve this? Possible NAs might be 'make shopping list with new diet foods only' or 'look up low-calorie meals in cookbook' or so on. Quote:
I don't bother putting that level of action into my GTD system. I build those sorts of things into routine behaviours which 'always' happen. I happen to be 'not good' at mornings, so don't want to think more than possible. Hence I try to do the same things in the same order. In my case this happens to be 'get up, go down stairs, feed cats, make sandwiches for lunch, make breakfast, wait for wife to come down stairs, eat breakfast, clean teeth, put in contact lenses, get dressed, cycle to work' -- I typed that straight off! Quote:
I suppose it's that GTD doesn't do everything for you -- in fact getting GTD to work involves making your system much like my morning routine. Something you can do without thinking, so it's actually the easiest way to behave. Not sure I've really answered you questions, but I hope it's useful. Steve »
What we're talking about here...Submitted by Berko on May 9, 2007 - 5:24am.
What we're talking about here is the development of habits. This doesn't fit very well into the runway or 10,000' level of GTD but it begins to make sense around 20,000' and upward. My boss, through whom I learned about GTD, keeps index cards posted on his bulletin board of current priorities, overdue deliverables, etc. I think this might be more effective for you than trying to granulate such an ambiguous outcome. »
I think what you're talking...Submitted by mdl on May 9, 2007 - 5:39am.
I think what you're talking about here are "habit-changing" projects. I put the actions for these on a daily checklist, trying to make them as physical as possible. For example, I, too, have recently tried to give up coffee. I've weaned myself from it slowly. (Used to be at 4-5 cups a day). For my "give up coffee" project, I write on my list: Schedule time to drink one cup of coffee (One cup is now my daily limit - I find it helpful to write the task down positively - I schedule my one cup of coffee on my daily agenda so I can look forward to it.) Instead of "get healthy," I make my project more concrete--e.g., weight < 200. Then on my daily list I put: Run On my home list I put: Plan healthy meals for next week Hope this helps! »
I was having a similar...Submitted by Lucky8 on May 9, 2007 - 8:17am.
I was having a similar issue to you but what I decided to do is create a weekly checklist in Excel; days of the week across the top and then the habit you want to achieve down the left hand side. If you succeed in the habit for the day you get a tick and if you fail you get a cross. So a habit would be 'no coffee' or 'shave' or whatever. Works really well for me and in your weekly review you can look at it and see where you need to focus your attentions. If you're looking for help on forming habits check out zenhabits. »
ThanksSubmitted by pouexmachinax on May 9, 2007 - 8:40am.
You replies will be very helpful, thanks! »
re: Ambiguous Next ActionSubmitted by Todd V on May 9, 2007 - 9:24pm.
This is something you need to be reminded about but may not necessarily have a next action. The next action may just be reminding yourself about this on a more frequent basis. If you have a digital implementation, put it onto a calendar and set an alarm to automatically email you or pop a window up periodically to remind you of this goal. If you have a paper implemenation, put it on your next actions list and just know that this is where you will be reminded of it even though there is no next action connected with it. Berko is right about the higher levels connected with this goal as well. There is more vertical thinking that needs to be done. Answering the question why you want to stop drinking coffee will no doubt make you aware of higher level outcomes and goals related to this desire of yours. And those higher level outcomes will have projects and next actions that need to be taken with them. But it is good to recognize that not drinking coffee is something you need to be reminded about more than it is something you need to do. So it's really a question of where in your system it is best to remind you about it -- and how often you need to be reminded about it. Wherever that place and frequency fits the best is the place where that item should go. Hope that helps. »
I'm reading a great book...Submitted by cornell on May 11, 2007 - 6:51pm.
I'm reading a great book on changing habits - One Small Step Can Change Your Life: The Kaizen Way. It advises *very* small steps to making a change. For example, drinking less coffee: Drink one ounce less for a week, then two ounces less, etc. Also, you might get some ideas from this post: http://www.davidco.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47200&postcount=2 - I guess it depends on why you're not looking at them. A few possibilities come to mind. 1) It is a new habit, which you haven't yet cultivated. 2) You're repelled by the actions you've committed to. 3) Your work and life are still structured to reward (or require) reaction to urgency/crises. If you can figure out the causes, you can make progress on making structural changes that support the new behavior. Regarding forming new habits, here are a few resources: From Organize Your Work Day In No Time by K.J. McCorry: 21 days to form new ones, with daily repetition. 90% of normal behavior is habits! o just do it 1) Be Patient SNAP: 1) S: Start Strong - Launch the new habit decisively. »
Excellent round-up of habit resources,...Submitted by Berko on May 11, 2007 - 7:15pm.
Excellent round-up of habit resources, cornell. I'm bookmarking your post for future reference. »
If you can't think of...Submitted by shadowfirebird on June 8, 2007 - 12:14pm.
If you can't think of a next action, then the next action is "brainstorm actions for this project"... »
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