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How do I make a website?

Ok, the title is intentionally noobish. Please don’t disregard my question.

I’m a little overwelmed by the whole web environment. Even though my major is IT/ web development I have only learned enough about css, xhml, asp.net, php, js, and mysql to make me feel like I will never learn how to put it all together. Currently my .Mac page is still the simplest way for me to put stuff on the web. Feature shortcomings not withstanding.

I want to make a website that helps people live green. I know it’s been done before but I think I have a unique twist on it that hasn’t been done yet. If i can pull it off with an insanely simple UI then I think I might have something that really gives people some value.

I’ve been following Merlin and 43F for a while now so naturally I returned here for some advice. i think I may be in the position that Merlin was in 15 years ago.

Finally, here’s my questions.

How do i go about building the site that I want?
Does it require a CMS?
Will drupal work for a site where a huge database of ‘green’ facts can be accessed, compared, and presented so that users can make buying decisions? Do I forget all that and buy some server space somewhere and build everything from scratch (CSS,Mysql, PHP, XHTML, etc)?

I’m just lost.


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mwr's picture

Even though my major is

Even though my major is IT/ web development I have only learned enough about css, xhml, asp.net, php, js, and mysql to make me feel like I will never learn how to put it all together.

How long have you been majoring in this? None of your classes have ever combined two or more of the above tools? Will that be covered in a future, possibly project-focused class? Or you may mean “how to put it all together” in some other context I’ve not recognized.

Does it require a CMS?

It probably requires at least a templating framework, but may not require something as heavy as Drupal. You certainly don’t want to hand-write PHP or HTML for each page.

Will drupal work for a site where a huge database of ‘green’ facts can be accessed, compared, and presented so that users can make buying decisions?

Drupal can probably do most everything, including making breakfast. There is this list of evaluation/rating modules that may help if you want your users to contribute their own opinions. If you’re looking to publish a list of costs, efficiencies, etc. of items from a database, then you may just want to go with a more focused framework like Ruby on Rails or Django. I have no direct experience with either, by the way.

Do I forget all that and buy some server space somewhere and build everything from scratch (CSS,Mysql, PHP, XHTML, etc)?

I may not know that much about Rails or Django, but I do know that writing raw SQL and PHP code is no way to live. And you will need to get a non-.Mac hosting account to do much of this.

(You can also check the “theoretically related” discussion above about one writer’s similar questions. I won’t swear I’ve got the right answers there, but they’re apparently not so horribly wrong to have caused several people to jump in behind me with opposite opinions.)

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Re: Even though my major is

Thanks for the reply. To answer your question, yes I have taken classes that overlapped many of those languages I mentioned.

 We pretty much hard coded everything and built everything from scratch.  It got me thinking "this can't be how the web was built"

I understand that they want us to learn the fundamentals but it just makes web development seem like such a huge mountain to climb. Thats when I started learning about CMS’s and found out merlin uses drupal with A2 hosting. So I started doing a little research. Even after reading drupals site I’m not sure what it does or how to use it.

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The moderation filter is a harsh mistress, it seems. A mean mistreater, a black hole, a digital Roach Motel where my missives can check in, but they can’t check out. My reply is here.

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