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gDocs and Apple would taste great together
Merlin Mann | Sep 22 2007
I’ve become an ardent Google Documents fan over the past few months — especially as its support for Safari has improved (didn’t say perfect; just improved). I use it for collaborating with clients and 43f guest authors, as well as for managing small projects and keeping various small teams organized. Personally, I find it simpler than a wiki and a lot more powerful than using a static .doc. My favorite use right now is to use a single shared document as a common space that 4 or 5 people have access to and that they can use to give each other to-dos, ask questions, etc. I know stuff like Basecamp does this better and certainly with more sophisticated features, but I’m really attracted to the simplicity of the one-document approach — especially for informal, remote teams. I think my gDocs cincher was the first time that it occurred to me to see if I could even look at my documents on my iPhone; I was gob-smacked to see that it actually worked. Obviously it’s not optimal for doing lots of editing, but you can see and perfunctorily edit your documents without a laptop, and that’s just pretty mind-blowing to me. As I’m wont to blather on about on MacBreak Weekly, I just can’t rid myself of the suspicion that Apple and Google will eventually formalize a relationship around the suite of Google tools and the iPhone. It just seems like such a great fit — especially if they can work up some kind of conduit for .Mac syncing that lets you keep everything humming along without manual updating. The idea of combining iPhone portability and style with Google ubiquity and power could pose a small but fascinating challenge to conventional big business apps. Finally, the thing that got me thinking about all this in the first place this morning is this adorable video explaining how gDocs works (thanks, Mike). As far as I’m concerned, there’s just not enough use of string in modern demonstration videos. POSTED IN:
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Google has done for word processing and spreadsheets what Apple has done for music and photos: they’ve abstracted away the file system. I want to see this sort of functionality integrated into Pages and Numbers: pull down the File menu and save to, or open from, Google.
IMAP lets me check my email from my phone, my desktop, or the web… why can’t I do this for my spreadsheets?
.mac to gDocs
i just re-upped the 108.20 USD for the 5th time for my yet-to-appreciate .mac account. at this point, i consider it an investment in what will eventually turn into something. and it becomes clearer that the something it’ll eventually turn into will feel a lot like gDocs. here’s to a happy marriage of Google’s subsidized and Apple’s subscription-based central storage. long may they live in ubiquitous connectivity! may all my 108.20s build a vast and unfailing hard drive, where the world can come together as one and peek at my crap!
I Dunno...
I use collaborative documents in my (very small) company. I can see the value of having a central doc rather than the multiple copies - I’ve certainly had occasion where I’m having to double and triple check that the copy I think is final is the “real” final copy.
However, we use a pre-formatted report, and the initial work-up gets done on that. The google docs don’t seem to support that option - or at least not very easily. I suppose that I could do the text first, and then plug it into the template, but that seems more like different work rather than less work.
Am I missing something on this that would make it more wonderful for me? Also - how secure are these docs? I work with confidential materials…
Dunno?
For confidential materials, maybe it’s more advisable to use less-known applications (and less criticized for privacy leakings) such as Versionate or Zoho, or 37 Signals’ Writeboard. But for my personal and collective needs (even in «confidential mode»), GoogleDocs has proved more than enough. One example: as teachers, me and 3 colleagues had to grade an admission exam where candidates could chose 2 out of 4 questions. Each of us was assigned a question and each had only his part of the response. I simply set up a private G. Spreadsheet (formulas included), invited them, and bang! — no hassle having all the grades.
PS: Great revamping of 43F!
Google Docs Saves My Life
When I work on group projects in my school, I just dish out Google Docs invites. It’s really handy to have everyone work on stuff at the same time. They add content, and I corrected their awful grammar.
When we’re done adding content together, I save out as a .doc and fix up the formatting and margins in MS Word or Pages, depending on the environment I’m in. I can’t wait to see where Google takes this project.
why not IWork?
Why not have IWork compatibility? One of the biggest reasons (imho) the IPhone can’t be called a pda is the inability to manipulate spreadsheets and documents. Given Apple’s huge upgrade to the IWork suite and the fact that the IPhone runs the Mac OS, wouldn’t it make sense to port IWork to the IPhone and have compatibility with Google docs? This would create a “Docs to Go” type of app with an added bang.
Safari support?
Um, what Safari support? Even forcing it to load in Safari 2.x, I still can’t so much as see a document list.
Safari 3
I think you should use Safari 3. Haven't tried it, but read some stuff about it.
nice, but what about the other Google white meat?
So how does your iPhone mojinate with GrandCentral? Inquiring minds want to know…
Zoho
May I recommend Zoho. Larger file size limits and plays nicer with Safari.
Almost the same experience
I’ve been using Google Docs for the same reasons you have - to keep to-do lists between myself and my other half while both of us are working in offices on various sides of the country.
The one thing I have found in the UK is most big companies ban the use of Google applications such as Docs because they term them “network storage applications” - dumb, but true.
Thankfully I scrape my way onto the internet at large via my personal mobile phone and Macbook.
Apple is the "front end" to Google's "back end"
I've been riffing on this connection for some time, most recently in June (see this post: http://www.iconnectdots.com/ctd/2007/06/will_apples_saf.html).
This one paragraph in the post about sums up why I think you're right-on Merlin: "Google is a left-brain company that designs like a blind man with no arms. Apple is without peer in its approach to elegance, beauty, industrial design and understanding the interface between people and technology. They're simply better than any other company on the planet."
When Google released Google Pages I was stunned. When iWeb released a drag-n-drop connection to Google it made even more sense (yet another post: http://www.iconnectdots.com/ctd/2007/08/iweb-was-today-.html).
Bottom line? This Google-Apple connection goes beyond Google Docs, the iPhone connection or even Safari as a "container" for rich, internet applications and the signs will keep pointing toward confirming your suspicions.
I can't edit a thing on my iphone
You can edit your gdocs on your iphone, Merlin? I can’t edit a thing. I can view documents, and spreadsheets get cut off at the bottom.