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Vox Pop: Google Desktop Day 1?

So far, Google Desktop for the Mac isn’t moving me.

I like the idea of it a lot. Integrating my Google and local searches and theoretically improving on Spotlight’s UI and indexing foibles are laudable goals and, to my mind, could be useful additions if they’re done properly. But, based on, admittedly, just 24 hours’ usage, it hasn’t provided a lot of new usefulness for my own purposes that isn’t better served right now by a combination of Quicksilver and Spotlight.

When people ask me (ad nauseum nauseam [mea culpa]) to explain why they would ever need Quicksilver if they already have Spotlight, I opine that, while the latter does a good job of indexing the contents of your Mac world, the former does an outstanding job of helping you access and manipulate it in theoretically endless ways. They’re actually very different things, and although they can and do work together, claiming they’re trying to accomplish the same thing suggests a lack of exposure to what Quicksilver can do (as well as a dearth of experience in what Spotlight cannot).

In my fiddling with Google Desktop, I haven’t seen anything that enhances a workflow that’s based around Quicksilver and Spotlight. What GD could be is a single (but, to my mind, flawed) way to combine elements of both functionalities under one roof. But, my goodness, what you don’t get with that approach.

As butt-sucking as the mystery-meat UI for Spotlight is (where in the hell does that Spotlight window live?), I do find it to be an understandable and nicely organized way to display a large of set of returns in an intelligent way. “Here’s all the containers that have what you’re looking for, organized by type, and by how closely we think it matches what you want.”

So far, my Google Desktop returns — both in the browser and from the Quicksilver-like search field — seem like a less intelligent dump. It seems convenient without being useful. Maybe I need to spend more time with it. Or maybe I need to hold out for the inevitable Quicksilver plug-in.

But what say you? Will Google Desktop change your workflow? Will it replace application launchers and Spotlight, or do you see a way for it to integrate alongside them? What’s Google Desktop doing very well that you’d like to see other apps and functionalities learn from? Does the integrated web search freak you out?

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Jim Gaynor's picture

Honestly? I don't yet know...

Honestly? I don’t yet know what GDS Mac gives me that I don’t get from a pop3 archive of my gmail account and Google Importer for Spotlight…

Brad Beyenhof's picture

This seems interesting, if only...

This seems interesting, if only for the facility that allows you to index your personal bookmarks with high priority in Google searches. I’ve told Google repeatedly that I would switch to Google Bookmarks (from del.icio.us) if they would add bookmark search to the main Google search results, but now it looks like I might not have to. If I sync del.icio.us with Safari, and then get Google Desktop Search to index those bookmarks, I could be all set!

I haven’t installed the software yet, though… does GDS allow you to only index bookmarks, or would I have to go whole-hog with my hard drive as well? If the latter, I’ll definitely skip the whole thing.

D's picture

It archives the whole hard...

It archives the whole hard drive, although apparently it won’t index anything you exclude from spotlight searches.

The nice part, to me, was the speed at which it adds Safari history to the index - it must be well-nigh instant, as pages I had visited a minute ago showed up in the results. And it reminded me how nice it would be if I could include mail messages in my Quicksilver catalog (perhaps that’s possible, but I haven’t figured it out). However, my interest in it is more about how it would influence Alcor et al. to add features to QS than any real need to run it myself. It’s just not a QS replacement by a long shot, which is fine.

Matt V's picture

I haven't installed GDS on...

I haven’t installed GDS on my MacBook yet, but I have been using it on my main Windows work PC for a year. I really like it. It searches my E-Mail, GMail and RSS feed archive instantly and the results are easy to sort through. No, you can’t do anything with the search results like you can with Quicksilver, but that really isn’t the point.

Use it for a week before giving up on it. Also, at least in the windows version, it’s not a resource hog.

One thing I like to use GDS for is call screening. I put the phone number from the caller ID into it and see if I want to talk with them :)

Ben's picture

I just got here googling...

I just got here googling via quicksilver for “butt-sucking.” Totally disappointed.

War-N's picture

I use Windows in my...

I use Windows in my work environment and Mac at home. I find Google Desktop (and Launchy) quite useful on the PC as there is no Spotlight\Quicksilver. While I haven’t tried GDS on the Mac, my first reaction upon hearing the news of a Mac version was “Why would you need that?”.

Spotlight fits the bill for me on the Mac.

TjL's picture

I've already turned it off....

I’ve already turned it off. The best part for me was being able to search my GMail from the desktop, but I had problems with the system being slow/unresponsive which seemed to start yesterday and ended today when I disabled it and rebooted.

I’m glad they’re making one, but I hope it gets better soon.

Will J's picture

I will admit happily that...

I will admit happily that Google has released some great software for the big 3 OS’s (windows, OSX, Linux) I do not know how GDS mac is useful. I can do everything I need with Spotlight and Quicksilver. It would make more sense to me if it worked on 10.3 although I dont think there are many people still using it. But like anything else a personal computer is about comfort, it gives Mac users another tool to work with their data. More power to those who need GDS.

Peace.

Reinier Meenhorst's picture

I have been toying with...

I have been toying with it and like it, but it doesn’t outdo QS+Spotlight in any way - except the incorporated search in GMail - together with Mail.app (which is a given of course)

I suspect the chances of survival would very much improve with an QS plug in!

No final verdict yet.

Lee's picture

I used GD for a...

I used GD for a day and then baleeted it earlier today. There seemed to be nothing it offered that Quicksilver didn’t do better. There was just no added value in keeping GD around…

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