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More from Peter Walsh on clutter, quality of life
Merlin Mann | Feb 19 2008
Oprah’s Clutter Man: “It’s Never About the Stuff” Clean Sweep’s Peter Walsh (previously) has a new book out, and Mediabistro had the chance to chat with him while he was out promoting it. While I wish Peter had held out for a more cromulent title (“Does This Clutter Make My Butt Look Fat?” Ouch.), I so admire this guy’s grip on what clutter does to your mind. Or at least what it does to mine. Typically swell quote:
and, later:
Ours is a culture based on the idea that whenever you run out of space, you should just pull up stakes and move five miles west. Then you can be happy. Is it any wonder that we seek organization rather than deletion as the solution to an overwhelming problem? Yeah, I think this goes well beyond not being able to find a business card in your junk drawer. Capacity is only worth building when it’ll be used in the service of stuff you really want. Whether that’s calendar events, your Fabergé eggs, or those crusty Lean Cuisine plates from last summer, the quality of matter that you allow to stay anywhere in your life eventually starts rubbing off on everything it touches. 13 Comments
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More stuffSubmitted by jeffwhitfield on February 19, 2008 - 1:23pm.
Funny thing is that George Carlin has already talked about this very thing (George Carlin Talks About Stuff). Wonder if he got influenced by George? Anyways… I’ve had first hand experience with someone who was one of the worst pack rats I’ve ever seen in my life. My wife’s mother was moving from Ohio and into a small two-bedroom apartment in Texas where we live. So my wife and I offered to help her move. Big mistake! What she failed to tell us was just how much she wanted to move. I kid you not…she literally had two large studio vans filled to the brim with boxes and stuff! After all the boxes were moved in there was no place for anything! Virtually every room was stacked three to four boxes high. Both bedrooms were full of boxes. The dining room was full of boxes. There was barely any place to do anything in the kitchen. About the only areas you could walk in and out of was the kitchen, living room, hall, and bathroom. That was it. It was pathetic. There’s an obvious emotional element to people who leave a lot of useless stuff lying around. My wife’s mother is the absolute worst-case scenario. The level of emotional attachment to so much useless stuff was mind boggling! It did teach me one thing though; that eventually, like it or not, you will have to make a decision on what to do with some of your stuff. You will eventually will have to decide whether to throw out that 10 year old Sound Blaster 16-bit sound card you’ve been holding on to. Or the box full of old cassette tapes you know damn well you’ll never play again, many of which you already have on CD. Even the most organized people in the world have clutter in their life. There is always the equivalent of a proverbial crap drawer somewhere. Could be a cluttered desktop on your computer. Could be the clutter in your mind. Or it could just be that you really do have a crap drawer and don’t like throwing anything away. At any rate, how you choose to act upon your emotions and get rid of the clutter in your life is entirely up to you. If you don’t, truth be told, sooner or later someone else will help you make that decision. And that’s a pattern that’s just filled with a world of hurt. » POSTED IN:
First comes the crap then comes the weightSubmitted by goodwolve on February 19, 2008 - 1:56pm.
After doing a HUGE clean out of our home I will say that, for me, avoidance was the issue. If I didn’t have to deal with it then it just wasn’t an issue. After 80 bags to the thrift shop and a full dumpster I got over the avoidance behavior. The next step was to deal with my body. I have joined a little gym and have slowly started to lose weight and tone up. Again, it was not an issue if I avoided it. In the end though it wasn’t very scary! I just had to get off my ass! » POSTED IN:
Re: First comes the crap then comes the weightSubmitted by jeffwhitfield on February 19, 2008 - 3:34pm.
Oh, man! Do I ever procrastinate when it comes to exercise! I got a belly gut on me that would put a pregnant woman to shame! I’m so damned organized in just about everything else. That’s about the only thing left to tackle for me. Now if I can only find my dumbells…. » POSTED IN:
Re: First comes the crap then comes the weightSubmitted by tiatere on February 22, 2008 - 11:46am.
I hear you! Except that I’m doing it the other way around. I lost 30 pounds last year and have become something of a gym rat. This year’s task/resolution: to do with money and clutter what I did last year with food. So my brother sent me to this site. I have been reading GTD for two years and am a third of the way through. This is the year I get it together! Btw interesting article awhile back in the NYT linking crap & weight: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/01/health/01well.html?_r=1&scp=8&sq=clutter&st=nyt&oref=slogin » POSTED IN:
The Five Phases of OrganizationSubmitted by timyates on February 19, 2008 - 6:53pm.
Bag, Box, Container Store, Self-Storage, Incinerator. » POSTED IN:
Vision vs Reality in the clutter warsSubmitted by mattlatmatt on February 20, 2008 - 1:02pm.
In regards to: What is your vision for the life you want to live, and do your life choices reflect that vision? Specifically: Is your home a space for the life you want? I would add: is your home a space for the life you have. What are your actions and instincts when you move through your day, and does your space respond well to those actions. WHICH IS TO SAY: If you use keys to open your front door, do you have a space right inside the door for those keys? Stuff like that. While I like very much using your space as a way to reflect your vision, it seems to me that for some folks that can lead to vague wishy-washy organizing principles. “I want to be healthy and good to my kids,” is a hard thing to act on or organize around. Judo-ing that into an actual action or instinct, however – “I feel best when I’ve eaten fruit” – might lead you to place a fruit bowl in your pathway from den to freezer where the ice cream lives. » POSTED IN:
Life Hacking your houseSubmitted by Brandon_Leedy on February 20, 2008 - 9:43pm.
Mattlatmatt brings up a great point, the whole idea of lifehacking your environment has become huge for me, as I’m sure it has for others as well. I know especially for myself (college student) I take 20 minutes to wake up, but I don’t have twenty minutes to waste every morning. Now, I’ve arranged everything I do to get ready in order of visual importance. I can do most stuff (shower, shave, cereal) with very little visual aid… by the time I need to see what clothes I’m putting on, I’m awake. Before I sleep I put all my work by the door so all I gotta do is grab everything in that pile, and head on out. Only question that I always think with lifehacks, “Are these improvements in my day, or just me compensating so I can be fairly lazy? Haha, I’d like to think we as lifehackers are innovating our day so we can devote that extra energy to better things. » POSTED IN:
Lifehack: Enabling versus EncouragingSubmitted by mattlatmatt on February 21, 2008 - 9:16am.
Agreed, Leadster - always a good idea to really examine whether your space hacks or your organization are enabling you to continue bad habits (the nerd version of like figuring out how to deal with a broken faucet rather than just fixing the damn faucet), or encouraging you to live the life you envision. Which, of course, bring us back to what Mr. Mann quoted above about your space reflecting your vision for your life. WHICH I GUESS MEANS: using your space and your life hacks to balance out the life you want with the life you have. I realize, of course, that I am starting to sound like a greeting card. » POSTED IN:
Another Issue with ClutterSubmitted by cbowler on February 21, 2008 - 5:14am.
One problem I have found myself facing once I have decided my life is better off without a lot of the stuff I have - what do I do with it? How do I rid myself of these items in an environmentally friendly fashion? It seems our North American culture is not only based on the idea of accumulating, but disposing can be downright hard to do because of a lack of facilities\companies who can do so in a green way. » POSTED IN:
Sell it, Give it, Throw itSubmitted by Brad_Tanner on February 21, 2008 - 3:38pm.
I have a simple process I go through when I want to get rid of something.
Brad
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Being Green and EbaySubmitted by deanj on February 27, 2008 - 7:27am.
I’ve seen people with houses jammed full of stuff that they’ll sell on ebay “one day.” It’s a good story but you need to have an ebay account, right? It’s not going to sell itself. I’ve been trapped by the ecological disposal of my crap dilemma too. Trick is that the hard part is accepting that the damage has already been done: I bought something that I no longer need. Don’t let something inconvenient to sell or recycle hang around another year, some of it is going into a landfill. Next time buy something with a better lifespan or even better don’t buy it next time. I’m going to look for a friends of the library right now; I have boxes of books for them. » POSTED IN:
Book donationsSubmitted by thepez on February 28, 2008 - 12:16pm.
If your library is like mine, they won’t take anymore - EVERYONE is trying to unload their books. An interesting alternative, albeit more involved than dumping a box of books at the library, is bookcrossing.com » POSTED IN:
About Merlin MannBio Merlin Mann is an independent writer, speaker, and broadcaster. He’s best known for being the guy who started the website you’re reading right now. He lives in San Francisco, does lots of public speaking, and helps make cool things like You Look Nice Today. Also? He looks like this, answers questions, and has something like a life. |
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